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What exactly is the main burr in your side with her. Red flag laws? Were you expecting someone that would get rid of some laws or change a lot of laws. I don't see that ever happening with anyone that was picked. Making laws are easy. Doing away with them is harder.
 
She is for red flag is just the beginning. She is against private carry laws, she is for upping the age to 21 for all firearms, she is in favor of everyone having to pay and take a class to get a permit and all of that is just a tip of the iceberg. She is anti gun from the get go. Look out for a more aggressive ATF, as if they aren't bad enough now. She wouldn't answer the 2nd amendment questions at the hearing she asked for a "personal conference" with the democratic committee members to explain her position. She is a snake in the grass and a closet anti gun communist. She is already pandering to the democrats. She was one of the most anti gun AG's in Florida's history.
 
I missed that part of her interview. She cant write laws but I guess she could endorse them if brought up. Where can I read about her past gun ideas? What I saw of her , I kind of liked her. I have seen her on the news before so I knew a little bit about her.
 
You can google her. Did you read that whole thing I put on there from the BC news letter? It touches on most of it but I found stuff from GOA and NAGGR and several other gun groups about the time she was the Florida AG. She was all in on the gun confiscation after the shooting in that school in Florida. I found part of it when I typed in her name and positions on gun control. She even went to Nevada and helped write gun control laws after that nut shot from the hotel into a crowd. She wrote the law about bump stocks that got overturned
 
Well maybe Trumps new AG can fix this for him. Ain't this a bitch? We went from having a tomato for a president to one with a parole officer. I hope he comes through on some of this stuff cause if he doesn't we are in deep dew dew. On the up side maybe Trump could get the tomato to pardon him. I saw this morning he pardoned another 2500 drug offenders and plans on more. Maybe someone could slide him a 100 dollar bill and add Trumps name to the list. The tomato can't read anyway.

President Trump Lost His Second Amendment Rights Thanks to a Nonsensical Gun Ban


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President Trump Lost His Second Amendment Rights Thanks to a Nonsensical Gun Ban

President-elect Donald Trump’s sentence of “unconditional release” for violating a New York law that prohibits falsification of business records entails neither jail nor probation.

But unless Trump successfully challenges his 34 felony convictions on appeal, he will suffer a lifelong penalty that should trouble civil libertarians across the political spectrum.

Because Trump’s convictions involved crimes that were notionally punishable by more than a year of incarceration, they made him subject to a federal law that bars him from possessing firearms.

That law is unfair, illogical, and constitutionally dubious because it deprives Americans of their Second Amendment rights even when they have no history of violence.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Trump was based on a vague, convoluted, and highly questionable legal theory aimed at punishing conduct that was not inherently criminal: trying to conceal his 2016 nondisclosure agreement with porn star Stormy Daniels.

But even if you think the prosecution was justified, the allegations underlying it provide no reason to believe Trump is prone to gun violence.

The same could be said of many other state and federal crimes that nevertheless trigger the loss of the constitutional right to armed self-defense, such as mail fraud, securities fraud, theft of fishing gear, driving under the influence, perjury, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, nonviolent drug offenses, and gun possession by cannabis consumers. As University of California, Los Angeles, law professor Adam Winkler observes, this category of “prohibited persons” is “wildly overinclusive,” encompassing a long list of crimes that are “not violent in the least.”

People who fall into that category face up to 15 years in prison if they dare to exercise their Second Amendment rights. They also can face additional charges that raise the combined maximum penalties to nearly half a century.

The law that forced Trump to give up his guns is of relatively recent vintage. Congress approved it in 1961 as an amendment to the Federal Firearms Act of 1938, which included a ban on gun possession that originally applied only to people convicted of violent crimes such as murder, manslaughter, rape, kidnapping and robbery.

That expansion looks newly vulnerable in light of the 2022 Supreme Court decision that said gun restrictions pass constitutional muster only if they are “consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.” Applying that test in 2023, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit restored the gun rights of a Pennsylvania man who had understated his income so he could qualify for food stamps.

“At root, the Government’s claim that only ‘law-abiding, responsible citizens’ are protected by the Second Amendment devolves authority to legislators to decide whom to exclude from ‘the people’” whose “right to keep and bear arms” is constitutionally guaranteed, Judge Thomas Hardiman wrote in the majority opinion. “We reject that approach because such ‘extreme deference gives legislatures unreviewable power to manipulate the Second Amendment by choosing a label.’”

Last May, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit overturned the firearm conviction of a California man who was prohibited from owning guns because of prior convictions for nonviolent offenses. In defending the “sweeping, no-exception, lifelong ban” that the defendant violated, the court said, the government had failed to cite a “well-established and representative historical analogue” that “impose(d) a comparable burden on the right of armed self-defense” and was “comparably justified.”

Since the Supreme Court announced that test, several other appeals courts have rejected Second Amendment challenges to prosecutions under this law or to the ban itself. Dissenting in the 9th Circuit case, Judge Milan D. Smith Jr. predicted that the Supreme Court will address that split “sooner, rather than later.”

The resolution of this dispute may not ultimately matter for Trump, who has several promising arguments for overturning his New York convictions and in any event will receive armed, taxpayer-funded protection as a current and former president.

But it could provide long-overdue relief for millions of Americans who have unjustly and unreasonably lost their Second Amendment rights.
 
I heard (if true) that Biden thought about pardoning Trump just to piss off the ones that made him drop out of the election. Biden has done other things for revenge against his own party so we will see.

I don't know what will happen with the second Amendment at this point and reading what you have said about Pam Bondi (even on Facebook) I should be worried some.The only question that comes to mind now is who will be in charge of the ATF. It might come under Bondi but I guess she will place somebody in that position they will be along the lines with her ideals. I don't think Trump was thinking about just the second amendment when appointing her but of the other things that she did that were more deserving. Maybe the second amendment organizations can step in with all their lawyers when something comes up and keep everything held up in court for long periods of times. As long as there are idiots with guns then there will always be chaos with the Second Amendment. (SA) There will also be anti-gunners as well that don't know sh%t and are just to be against guns just because. Stupids run the world you know.
I just wish people would realize that NO law will take care of people violence with guns. It only limits the law abider.
 
Oh I agree and That's another thing I am afraid of with Pam Bondi. Whoever she installs as director will set the enforcement rules. The ATF is running amuck. Read the post here that was in Guns America. The ATF just ignores the judges ruling. These people think they and their agency are above the law.


ATF Says ALL Braced Pistols Are SBRs, In Violation Of The Law​

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Published On: January 13, 2025 Updated: January 14, 2025 BY Larry Z





Gun Owners of America (GOA) is raising serious concerns about a recent email sent by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF).


The email, which was sent to a GOA member on December 11, 2024, claims that attaching a stabilizing brace to a pistol creates a short-barreled rifle (SBR) under the National Firearms Act (NFA).

This stance, GOA asserts, disregards several federal court rulings that blocked enforcement of the ATF’s controversial pistol brace rule.


The situation began when a GOA member emailed the ATF, writing:


“I recently purchased a CZ Scorpion Mini Plus pistol and I’m considering installing a pistol brace. However, I’ve encountered conflicting information regarding whether this modification would require the firearm to be registered as an SBR. Could you please provide clarification on the applicable regulations? Thank you for your assistance.”
The ATF’s Firearms Industry Programs Branch (FIPB) responded, stating:

“Federal law requires a pistol with an attached stabilizing brace or stock be registered as a short-barreled rifle (SBR).”
The ATF acknowledged federal court rulings that deemed its pistol brace rule unlawful, noting:

“Federal courts have found the rule unlawful and have enjoined its enforcement. In fact, one district court has even vacated the pistol brace rule.”
Despite this, the ATF claimed authority under the NFA and Gun Control Act to classify firearms equipped with stabilizing braces as SBRs, stating:

A firearm designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder that meets the statutory definition of a short-barreled rifle contained in the NFA, regardless of what is used as a stock, must be made and transferred in accordance with the statutory requirements of the NFA.”

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This response sparked immediate concern from GOA. Senior Vice President Erich Pratt criticized the ATF’s interpretation, saying:

“It seems like ATF is arguing that pistol brace rule or not, it’s considering any firearm with a brace or even anything similar to a brace to be an SBR.”
Pratt pointed to the phrase “regardless of what is used as a stock” as particularly troubling, questioning if this could extend to items like AR-15 buffer tubes.

In response, GOA sent multiple inquiries to ATF leadership demanding clarification. On January 8, 2025, Pratt sent a letter asking for a response by the same day.

When no reply was received, GOA elevated its concerns to ATF Deputy Directors Andrew Lang and James Vond, as well as Assistant Director Megan Bennett. The letter demanded:

  1. Immediate clarification that FIPB’s email does not represent the ATF’s official position.
  2. Assurance that a stabilizing brace does not automatically classify a pistol as an SBR.
  3. A guarantee that the ATF will comply with court injunctions blocking enforcement of the pistol brace rule.
The letter also emphasized:

“It is difficult to imagine FIPB’s novel interpretation of the NFA, an unprecedented attempt to circumvent the orders of several federal district courts, surviving the imminent turnover in presidential administrations and forthcoming confirmation of a new ATF director.”
GOA concluded by urging President Trump, who takes office on January 20, 2025, to fulfill his promise to rescind the ATF’s pistol brace rule during his first week in office.

The group reiterated its commitment to fighting against what it calls the “weaponization” of federal agencies and working to abolish the NFA entirely.
 
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