I think my two 6 points and 4 pointer are back from last year. They were in my backyard just now and have already started their new horns which of course are in velvet. They are about 10 inches long with a nub on top. I didn't see the usual 4th one which I am assuming to be last years 8 point. I don't know if he will be around this year or not. Time will tell.